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Should you rent property under the Fair Deal/Nursing Home Support Scheme

In October 2022 the HSE changed the rules on the FD with regards to renting the applicant’s home.

Up to this point in time the HSE charged 80% of gross rental income as part of the income contribution to care. This left the applicant often in a loss situation as costs such as agents commission, service fees on apartments, repairs and renewals were all expected to be paid from the 20% of the rental income that the applicant was allowed to keep. In situations where the applicant’s qualified for a subsidy it was also reduced by the rental amount. As a consequence very few applicants under the Fair Deal rented their properties as financially it was not worth their while.

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As part of the Government’s housing strategy the Housing Minister decided that by incentivising Nursing Home residents to rent out their homes it would help tackle the housing shortage and the % chargeable on rental income was reduced to 40% allowing the applicant to retain 60% of the income which should allow the Resident sufficient funds to pay any costs on the property and make a profit.

So should an applicant or their representatives rent out their home when they are in care. Well initially from a financial point of view it would appear to make sense in particular where a Nursing Home loan is required as it will reduce the amount of loan needed to fund the care and ultimately the amount that has to be repaid from the estate when the applicant passes.

However before one decides to rent the applicant’s home, you need to consider the following.

  • • What upgrades will the house require to ensure that it is compliant with the Rental Tenancies Board who regulate the rental sector. Often older persons homes require considerable investment to bring the houses up to the required rental standard. Do the applicant’s have that money available or do they need it to help fund the contribution to care and extra costs that the applicant’s incur when in care.
  • • Has the applicant capacity to sign a rental agreement or is their an Enduring Power of Attorney in place whereby the Attorney can sign an agreement.
  • • Tenants increased Notice period. Minimum notice periods were increased last May and are likely to be increased further as tenants rights remain a major focus point on the political agenda pursued by all parties. If Sinn Fein form any part of a future Government further longer notice periods will be implemented for sure. Currently Tenants in a house for 12 months are entitled to 6 months’ notice, and with eviction bans in place if they don’t leave you cannot evict them. While this is normally a serious situation for a landlord, for families of applicants in care this can put the estate of the applicant once they have passed in serious difficulty, as often or not the house needs to be sold to repay the Nursing Home loan which must be repaid within 12 months of the applicant passing. With the Revenue collecting the loan on behalf of the HSE, little or no mercy or leeway is given and punitive interest charges will be levied on the estate until the loan is repaid.
  • • For estates without Nursing Home loans the distribution of the estate will potentially be delayed as you will not be able to sell the home, normally the largest asset in a estate, until the tenants vacate.
  • • Given that the average Resident of a Nursing Home lives for 2.5 years is it worth the expense and risk of renting.

I personally do not believe so as it would appear the majority of residents and their families agree with me as the number of properties released to the rental market by residents in Nursing Homes has so far failed to meet Government expectations.

For further advice on the Fair Deal and options for the Home please contact Tom Murray @ 086 601 5042 or email advice@fairdealadvice.ie or visit our website www.fairdealadvice.ie.

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Mary Collins-Smith
Mary Collins-Smith
2022-11-25
We contacted Tom for advice on my mothers care when my sister and I traveled to Ireland to visit our mother who was waiting to be discharged to a Nursing Home from CUH. His advice was thorough and he was able to assess my mothers financial needs very quickly. His expertise, follow up, and professionalism were highly evident. Tom sees things through and he takes his professional role seriously. We will continue to refer to Tom on my mothers loan application process for her care. I am relieved to have found someone like Tom to help us navigate the nursing home process. A million thanks, Tom for all your help! I am happy to know you.
Mary O'Driscoll
Mary O'Driscoll
2022-09-19
Tom is exceptional. His calm, reassuring expertise and ability cuts through the mind numbing complexity of the Fair Deal and supports when you are making difficult & heart-breaking decisions. Our Dad had died unexpectedly just days after our mother had transferred in an emergency situation into full-time care. Thus, the original Fair Deal application was null & void. We were dealing with grief, anxiety over our mother’s care and dread over how her care would be funded. After one discussion with Tom, a weight lifted off our shoulders and we had a clear approach to manage our revised Fair Deal application. If I had known of Tom’s existence, I would have persuaded my Dad to have spoken to him years ago. He would have put my Dad and all of us on the best financial pathway to not only provide the best care for my mother but would have removed the dread and fear that my Dad felt, believing he was going to lose everything trying to fund my mother’s care. My advice would be to contact Tom years in advance of needing care funding; ask him to do a Fair Deal financial assessment and create a financial plan. You will sleep better at night!
Jim Dore
Jim Dore
2022-08-26
I was directed to Tom by my attorney in July, regarding my mothers accelerated need for full time care. Living overseas and not knowing what I didn't know, Tom was a phenomenal resource to help me understand the ins & outs of the long term care options. It is by far the best investment one can make before proceeding down this path, absolutely invaluable advice & insight. Not cheap but you certainly get what you pay for - from the moment I reviewed everything with Tom, I had a huge sense of relief about the process.
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Bastable-Warren Irish-Dancers
2021-04-27
I have had the privilege of using the service on 2 separate occasions and I can honestly say that it was the most professional service I received in the area of providing advice around that fair deal System run by the HSE. The cost of the service was more than out weighed by the savings accrued as a result of Toms expertise and advice throughout (several thousand euro in savings) We were so lucky to have an expert such as Tom who provided information, expertise and most of all personal advice during the entire process and cannot thank him enough for his support and assistance.
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Brian Mac manus
2021-04-27
Tom Murray Fair Deal was a huge help to us. He guided us the whole way through. His advice is impeccable. He responds to phone calls and e mails immediately and produces documents almost in real time. I could not emphasise too strongly the help Tom provided. Worth every penny. Thanks Tom.
Bernie Walsh
Bernie Walsh
2021-04-26
I contacted Tom for advice regarding the Fair Deal Scheme as my mother required full time care in a nursing home. Tom's expertise and advice was invaluable. He made the whole daunting process very easy. He had a list of required documents (some that I didn’t know I would need). He took the pain and worry out of the whole process and put my mind at rest. I cannot recommend Tom and this service highly enough. I consider this to be money well spent. Thanks Tom.
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Tracey Moloney
2021-04-23
Once you make the first call to Tom regarding the Fair Deal Scheme , he makes it all very easy to understand and navigates you easily through the process. The thought of Fair Deal can be daunting for any family but with Tom's assistance and knowledge of the scheme it was an easy process.
Kieran Boyle
Kieran Boyle
2021-02-11
Excellent advice, very professional
Liz Lyons
Liz Lyons
2020-11-10
We contacted Tom with regard to my parents needing Nursing Home care and the Fair Deal process. Tom's advice was absolutely invaluable to us and without his help we wouldn't have been able to get through this daunting and difficult process. We can't thank him enough for his advice and support and would have no hesitation in recommending him.